Dental Bun Podcast
Embrace the sassy, classy and messy bits of dentistry with the perfect blend of life and work wisdom.
Dental Bun Podcast
Dental Hygienists: You Know Things w/ Amanda Hill RDH
Embrace the importance of self-care and career exploration. Amanda shares personal experiences on stepping out of her comfort zone, saying yes to opportunities, and the pivotal role of writing in career growth. She emphasizes the significance of curiosity, not just in your profession but also in understanding and connecting with your patients. Tune in to find out how to make small changes to increase interest in your career and open doors to new career opportunities.
The DEN Study Club will be hosting Amanda Hill on Sept. 17, 2024, for a 1.5 CEU course- There Is An Instrument For That: Conquering Tricky Spots in Dental Hygiene Instrumentation
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Welcome to the Dental Bun Podcast. My name is Janice and today I am here with Amanda Hill and Amanda, we have actually been friends for a few years now. I want to say we met during COVID.
Amanda:We did, yes, yes, we went COVID-19.
Janiece:And we took a course, because what else was there to do? But you know, either be scared or learn, or just learn or just wild. So that's what we did, and so I'm just so excited to have Amanda here with me because she once again is my first guest on the Dental Bund podcast. She was also my first speaker for my study club, and so that's so cool. It is cool, I know. I just love being able to reach out to you and, of course, having time to myself with you, because if you haven't been in a course with Amanda or you're just not active in the dental world and social, you'll see that she kind of pops up everywhere. So a lot of people want a piece of Amanda and I'm glad that I get to have special time with her.
Amanda:Absolutely. You know I'll drop anything for you, janice, and I want you to know my messy bun that I did for the messy bun podcast, just for you.
Janiece:I feel so terrible. I know you have gorgeous hair. You're having a good hair day. You roll, I was, I rolled with. Brittany, I'm representing the messy bun and, like the first episode of me, don't show up with a. What a loser.
Amanda:I got you, thank you, thank you. That's the friend support we got.
Janiece:I appreciate that. So with the Dental Bun Podcast, I really want to focus in for our listeners, on what we can do for ourselves in the workspace, and workplace wellness is dear to my heart. I've been in dentistry for 20 years and it has been a roller coaster of emotions because, as you know, there is dental things that we have to deal with and life stuff that we have to deal with, and so today I'd like to spend some time with Amanda to help us understand her journey, because she's actually been in multiple dental settings.
Amanda:Well, you know, it's so funny because if you had asked me when I started in dentistry at the ripe old age of 15, you know, would I be where I am today? I would have been like, well no, can you even do that? And so I think a big part of my personality which is again how you and I met Janice we met really diving into disc theory and strengths and things like that, and so we really kind of got to know ourselves. But one thing I've learned about myself is I really just like to explore and be curious about opportunities and sort of say yes to things and then figure out through the experience is that the right space for me or is that not? And so you know I started out as a dental assistant and then went to hygiene school directly out of high school and got my bachelor's degree at Old Dominion University, go Monarchs in Virginia, which is where I live. Now I've moved away, but come back. I married a Navy guy and hygiene has been a great career in that it has, it has held many different spaces for me. So just out of hygiene school, working full time, then we moved to California and that's when licensure was really difficult and so I actually I didn't work for a little while and then we moved to Rhode Island and then licensure there was easy, and so by then we had a baby, and so at that point I started working part-time, which is great about hygiene. You know you can. You can work a day a week and still make pretty decent money. You know, I always felt like if you looked at my resume, my resume would look so current, even though for a long time I was working a day a week. Sometimes I was working two days a month when, when my husband was in Iraq, I was I was going to lose it and and thankfully my office was so kind and they're like, sure, yeah, you want, what can you do? And I said I can do eight to three two days a month. And they're like, sure, great, you know, like, what other job can you do? That? I mean, I'd been at that office for a long time, so I had a good relationship with them. But and so you know that the hygiene did that for me.
Amanda:And then we moved away to Europe and um, and then we came back from Europe and I was working clinical hygiene and then somehow stumbled into a role with Dental Post, which is a nationwide job board, and I started to get to go to meetings and and meet people, and that's when opportunities started to come, just through networking and being friendly and which is just kind of my nature is you know who I am and and so I started doing and, and so I started doing some writing, and then I started doing some speaking and then and then, yeah, and then, like you mentioned that last year I taught at a hygiene school. There's a hygiene school pretty near me that really needed some help and so I worked one day a week in their clinic helping the students with their patients, which was so stinking fun. It was just fun, it was just fun to go back to the very beginning to be like, oh yeah, ok, let's talk about how we feel calculus. Ok, let's talk about how we talk to patients. Like you know, remembering what that was, and I've gotten to work at all different kinds of offices through all of our moving and going different places, and so I've worked for the military for a little while.
Amanda:I've worked in people service. I've worked in. I've worked in a Medicaid practice. I've worked in. I've worked in a Medicaid practice. I've worked in, you know, just regular, you know insurance-based practice. So it's been different experiences and I've appreciated different things about each one of them, appreciated different things about different bosses, different dentists, and not appreciated some things about different dentists With all of the jobs that you have had in dentistry, like which one?
Janiece:if you could pick one that you're like, this, this is. This was a really wonderful space for me and I could, I could go back and do that. What? What would it be?
Amanda:Oh, is it allowed to just be what I'm doing right now, cause I love what I'm doing right now I guess, like you know, I guess like it goes in phases honestly, and it's I mean cause I couldn't do what I'm doing right now when I had small kids.
Amanda:No, but you know. But my youngest is a junior in college now and so I can do what I do now. I can travel Like I travel three to four, you know, probably three, three times a month, you know to different conferences and get to speak, and I would. I would have never done that when my kids were little, and so I love again I mentioned that I loved that hygiene at each point in my life, hygiene could still be a part of my life.
Janiece:As we've gone through that process. You and I are kind of that similar path where it's like we did our family life and then you kind of ignite interest in other things and then your career starts to pivot Right. You didn't even know there was not an exit, you didn't even know you could.
Amanda:Yeah, and that's the one thing that you know for any of your listeners that I you know, if there's I imagine most of you are hygienists out there that are listening. I think that I for a long time had no concept that I had any knowledge any worth outside of cleaning teeth, that that I, I'm a hygienist, this is all I can do. You know I, I clean, I clean teeth. And I didn't know until until I, you know, hopped into that space with dental posts and I would sit at a. I'd sit at a table like a boardroom table with you know marketing people and computer science people and you know developers that were writing apps and things like that, and I was the only dental person at at the, at the table and like they put something up and I'd be like, oh, no, no, no, that's not right. This, this, we would never do this or we would never say this. And all of a sudden and through you know this has happened numerous times. For a year I actually took a job with a dental company as their clinical education manager and realized, holy cow, I know a lot of stuff that that other people don't know, and so I want to encourage any of you that are like you know, I think maybe I want to do something outside of clinical dentistry, but but I only have an associates, or you know, I just have a bachelor's degree and I don't know anything other than clean teeth. You actually do know a lot, um, and you actually have a lot more to bring to the table than you realize.
Amanda:Um it was, it was a huge. I remember the very first time when I said something I don't remember what it was, I think it was something about. There was a picture, a marketing picture, and the woman had her mask below her chin in the marketing picture and I'm just sitting there and I was like no, you can't use that picture because the mask is below the chin. And they're like wait, what are you talking about? I was like no, that's actually, that's an infection control thing.
Amanda:And then they were calling the patients in the, in the, in the copy, they were calling them clients. And I was like actually we really use the word patients and I mean literally. I watched these people like write down what I was saying and I was so like, wait, you don't, this is interesting, like what I'm saying, and I like like, oh my gosh. Like I like pumped up and I like felt I'm like, oh okay, like I know stuff. I know stuff like it felt so good because I think, for so long, dental hygienists like I mean, come on, look at who are we in a movie. When you go, when you watch a movie and they mention that somebody's a dental hygienist, that usually means that we are the person that somebody had an affair with.
Janiece:Yes, because we're all beautiful, right? I mean gorgeous, that's like Hollywood.
Amanda:We're just sleeping around. I feel like there isn't that. I don't think that we understand that there is really truly a respect for what we do and have really that own self-respect, and I think a lot of that Janice came from when we took time with COVID and really started to understand myself and understand where my strengths were and understand where my strengths weren't and be like okay, not my strengths, focus on my strengths, you know. Okay, oh, this is why I wig out when this happens.
Amanda:And those kinds of things and really being able to start to get control over who I am and then being able, once I understood myself, oh my gosh, can you start advocating for yourself and really pushing that envelope. And that's when my career really just started to take off. That no longer was I in that situation where you know I'm sure many of us have been there you know you're in an office and you have a really smart dentist and I want to call him a know-it-all dentist but you know that you're afraid to push back, right, You're afraid to give that pushback because you're just a hygienist and what do you know? Darn it all. I know stuff, I know stuff like you know, and so, but you're, I don't know that I ever gave myself that, that permission or that, that ability to be able to really stick up for myself.
Amanda:You know I'm, I'm a total like I on the dispersal profile, like I will avoid conflict like nobody's business. But really, once I started to understand myself, I was able to then lean in a little bit better Still not good but to conflict and being able to sort of stand up for my side, which is a powerful thing. And I think that we in hygiene are in a really pivotal space right now. With being able to do that, and if we can do that in a way that is still constructive, to be able to push our profession forward, I think we can really go place it.
Janiece:I do do too. It really is a beautiful space to be in because it allows for creativity. There is no set rules right now. Your knowledge is worth something. We all went to hygiene school. Yeah, we did the same thing. It's it's just, it's so, it's it's. It's a cool space to be in. I think so. It really is. If someone were to look at your schedule or go like man Amanda is bopping around everywhere. I see her. She's like here and there, she's podcast here, podcast there how does she even have time to go to the bathroom? So what is it that you do to help, like grab time for yourself to de-stress? I mean, we all have to do it. We all have to go and put those barriers up.
Janiece:And for you, do you still have children at home? Nope, nope. So now this is time, maybe, for you to come together in your marriage. So how do you get that time to go? Okay, I've got to shut that off. I've, I've got to focus.
Amanda:It's it's not easy, especially now that you know I'm a I'm a full-time entrepreneur, I'm a speaker and a writer and you know I I'm accepting writing assignments or or speaking assignments and things like that.
Amanda:And and there's a point in which I have to be like, well, okay, well, let me figure out, like, what makes the most sense for my my time, you know, and is this, is this worth my time? Um, and and like, I just took a week off when I went to Lake Gaston with my family. We celebrated my birthday and it was great, and and I didn't really answer emails and I got to tell you something a lot of people are used to me being like right back with them about emails, and so I like a couple people were like hey, hey, and I was like you got it out of office and I had to, like I had to work with myself to be okay with that, and I actually think the best thing that I ever did to help me with stress and and navigating all this was actually get a life coach. Um, and I know, like some people like, when I say that to my husband, when he's like that's just weird, I gotta tell you.
Amanda:I had a therapist for a while. My life coach better than my, like, my therapist was enabling me up a storm. My life coach, I agree, kicks me in the butt and calls me on the carpet when I'm like, oh, but it's not my fault. And she'd be like, so I, I don't know this and I'm sure there's, but it's not my fault and she'd be like, hmm, so I don't know, and I'm sure there's a million life coaches out there Mine, of course, is the best, but she helped me really understand how to manage my mind and so much. Frankly, I want to. Maybe I might be off the wall and Janisha can totally disagree with me. I think everything comes down to managing our thoughts. Frankly, I want to. Maybe I might be off the wall and, janice, you can totally disagree with me, I think everything comes down to managing our thoughts.
Amanda:I agree, ok, ok. So, I'm not crazy, OK, because I really think that so much of our brain takes us some of the craziest places it's. I mean the stories I can make up in my head, the self talks like it, just like it's craziness.
Amanda:And even the things that you'll say to yourself. Like just literally just before we had this podcast, I went to return something an Amazon purchase and I drove, for some reason, to the FedEx store and I parked and I realized that I was at the FedEx store and I was like Amanda, you idiot. Like literally said you idiot. And then I stopped and I was like no, amanda, you are not an idiot, you just have a lot of things on your plate and you, you just weren't paying attention and not like.
Amanda:This is literally how I talk to myself, cause when we go those funny places with ourselves and we call ourselves names or we think things, or we think things about other things, and then I worked really hard to then stop and flip it, and the more I stop and flip it, the faster now I stop and flip it. I don't go as far into the hole about thinking negatively about myself or even others, and you know what. Others are allowed to have their feelings and their thoughts and their actions, and really it has very little to do with me and so, but the more I practice that, the better I am at controlling that stress. I'm really good about getting up every morning and working out. I'm really good about making sure I get really good sleep and, in fact, I started to tell you about this beforehand, but I have this aura ring now.
Janiece:Please tell me. I've actually been. It's been out for a couple of years and I've been kind of ogling it online going should I buy it, should I not?
Amanda:Oh, so for me as a go, go, go, go, go person. Yes, right, Like you know, and we're taught often to go and achieve or succeed or perform in spite of ourselves. Right, like, oh, I don't feel like working out, well, it doesn't matter, you still, you still must give it your all, you must go a hundred percent Right. And so these are, you know, these are words that we're told. Right, these are things that we're told. And so this ring.
Amanda:I've had an Apple watch for years and I, I went and went well over a year closing all three rings. Every single day, like you're amazing, like, literally, sometimes, at like 9.50 at night, I'm running around my house trying to close the stupid circle. Right, this is what I'm doing. It doesn't matter if I feel good, it doesn't matter if I feel bad. I got to close the circles, I made this commitment right.
Amanda:So what the aura ring has shown me is, every day, you get a readiness score, so you get a sleep score and you get a readiness score. So you get a sleep score and you get a readiness score. And it will track your readiness based upon how well your heart rate lowered at night. You know the quality of your sleep, your stress, your heart rate variability, like how quickly you were able to get yourself back out of a zone of stress. And so some mornings it will say you know that I'll get a low readiness score. And it'll say'll say listen, your heart rate didn't lower last night, take it easy today. And so, instead of doing a kickboxing workout or something like a hit workout, I'll go for a walk, I'll do some yoga. That's amazing, which is somebody's like, and it's the only way I can do it, because the stupid ring gave me permission.
Janiece:Well, I have to be told that I mean with a hundred for sweet, like we're just too busy. We don't recognize that we need to slow down. That's amazing.
Amanda:No, and so it will tell me. It even knew like I got the flu this year and it knew I had the flu before I had the flu, because it's like your temperature is rising.
Janiece:Yeah.
Amanda:And for my lady it's really pretty spot on about when your period's gonna start. It's really, really, for somebody that travels a ton, cool, um, it's amazing, yeah. So it gives me some really fascinating data about how not just to, not just to control calories, because I feel like the apple watch, will you know? I know calories and I know movement right, and I know I gotta stand up every hour and, like you, you know all that kind of stuff, but this one, I feel like, is giving me some better data. That's more about wellness. Actually, I think this is more about wellness. This is more about accomplishment and this is more about wellness. Gotcha, I'm liking this and I really. You know, if you have, have you ever read the book Outlive by Peter Attia?
Janiece:No, but it's on the list, so good I got it on Audible.
Amanda:Listen to it on Audible. It's like 20 hours on Audible, but he really talks about health, longevity and you know. So I want to make sure that you know if I, however long I live, I want to live well, and that really comes down to taking care of ourselves. And and I'll tell you, I mean, if you're, you know, if you're a mom and you have a baby and you're like, my sleep core sucks, yes, your sleep is going to suck for a little while, like that's just a phase.
Janiece:I mean it's horrible. It's a horrible phase that we all have to do yeah.
Amanda:But, but you'll. But you'll move on and then you'll be able to start taking care of yourself better, and so this has been a really great thing for me to learn about my stress, and I see the difference when I travel, and so I know how important it is for then, when I come home, to really get quickly get back on that schedule I can see the difference in when I eat poorly.
Janiece:What, yeah, this is like a little magician on your legs. It is.
Amanda:It really helps me understand how better to take care of my body, and I think each body is different. We're each going to be different, and so this really has some better metrics for me to take care of me. Yeah, yeah, the four-ring O-U-R-A.
Janiece:Well, now I'm going to buy it. I mean I have a $40 off coupon, Like I can send you a let me know.
Amanda:Send it to me, let me know. Yes, I don't get anything for it, but you should pay for it, but like that's, that's, that's amazing.
Amanda:But that helps me with this stress. That really has helped me understand what stresses me out. Like every day I get a graph about like when your body was in stress and I can look at that and say, okay, what was I doing Right? And some stress is good, not all stress is bad, I'm not saying that but I can look at that and be like, oh, I was driving on the interstate. Well, no wonder I was stressed, because I hate other drivers, or you know.
Amanda:Or I can be like, oh, I was in that really tough conversation with that you know, that sponsor, that, that you know what I don't actually enjoy working with them, and so I actually don't think I'm going to work with them anymore. And so it's really helped me see some of those things which a lot of times, I think we discount. I think, particularly as women, we discount ourselves as like, oh, it's just all in my head. I'm just so crazy, like, oh, it's just me being emotional. And this really helps me see that, you know, emotions happen in your whole body. It's not just your head, you're not crazy, it's your whole body and so it's taking care of your whole body.
Janiece:I love that. Well, um, you know I'm now I'm purchasing a ring. There you go, like, there you go, holy cow, that's so amazing. So, now that you've got your aura ring and of course that keeps self-care under control and so that helps you lower your stress levels what's the one thing that you know that if someone's going, okay, I am interested in exploring things outside of dental hygiene. Okay, when you start to look at your career, what was the best like beneficial move for you? Was it not necessarily the actual move that created the pivot? Was it just where you could go? I'm ready for this. Don't be scared. Like what was that little voice? You have to say yes, well, before you're ready.
Amanda:You were never ready, you were never ready for any of this and I still, to this day, in fact, I have a, I have something that's going to launch next month and I can tell you, in the pit of my stomach, I'm like, oh, I shouldn't have said yes to this, like I'm scared. And then I stop and I say to myself, if you're scared but you're still excited, that means you're going in the right direction. And so it really comes down to just saying yes, to think. I really think writing was a great start for me, and I would have told you that I didn't know how to write. I was like I'm not a good writer, like I've never gone back for my master's degree because I like I can't write, I'm not going to write paper, oh my gosh. I just started writing, like I talked and apparently I'm really good at it, and and I started to write and I started to write more and that started to get my name out there, so a lot of name recognitions. And so then companies were, you know, dming me on LinkedIn or like, hey, do you want to try our products? Hey, do you want to write about our product?
Amanda:Initially I didn't get paid to write, I just wrote. And then eventually I started to get paid to write, which was pretty cool, and so I would say, I would say, start to think about a topic that you're that you, that you want to talk about, that you feel like you're like this is something that I talked to my friends about, or this is something that I talked to you know my patients about, or whatever, and just just like, do a word vomit on on paper and and see and see what it looks like and then submit it to some magazines. If you want some help, I'll totally help you, I'll totally read it. Don't use AI, by the way. Don't have AI right for you. Magazines check that stuff, and so don't, you'll get in trouble.
Amanda:Use your own words no-transcript company and have them get to know you, and then you get to try out a new prophy angle or new prophy paste or a new fluoride or I don't know whatever they, but they want hygienists to try these things and give some feedback, and so that's kind of, and my patients loved it. They're like, well, what are we trying today? I mean, like they liked it. I'd be like, yeah, we got this All right. What do you think? How's it taste? What do you, you know? And and they, my patients, thought it was super cool too. They liked that I was learning, I was cutting edge, and so that's another way that you can start that. And then that company might say, hey, will you write about your experience with this product?
Janiece:And then there's an opportunity that's wanting to maybe reach out to someone. What platform have you been most successful with? I?
Amanda:certainly get DMs on Insta that people will reach out to me and they'll, you know I'll get company. Just had one just recently. They're like hey, can we mail you more product? We'd like you to try it. I'm like sure.
Amanda:So, yeah, I would say the most, the ones that went the furthest, the ones that really, you know, turned into something, were LinkedIn, but not to say that Instagram or Facebook I didn't, I haven't made connections that way. But if you have a product that you love, like actually this, so I didn't mention this. So my entire like launchpad of like speaking on my own happened actually from LinkedIn. I I wrote an article on dental unit water lines and I sent it via LinkedIn to pro edge dental water labs, cause I was like, hey, I love what you do, cause I, I loved their product, I loved their educational videos. It was something that I, as a clinician, used and appreciated, and so I sent I. You know the person, kelly T, was always in all the videos, and so I sent Kelly T a message on LinkedIn and just said hey, I love water too. Here's an article I wrote. And immediately they messaged me back and they're like oh my gosh, we should be like, we should know you, and, and we kind of got back and forth and then I ended up doing my very first webinar for them, you know, sometime later.
Amanda:But and so it was a product that I was, it was a subject I was interested in, it was a product that I used and was passionate about, and so then I just reached out and said, hey, I'm a practicing clinician and I absolutely adore your product and adore the education that you give to people, and I didn't expect anything from it. I wasn't asking for a job, I just wanted them to know. And now they, you know, and then they got to know me, and so then it did lead somewhere, and so that's a really easy way to come from a genuine spirit. Maybe there, maybe there's a fluoride that you love, maybe there's an instrument that you love, maybe there's, you know, some kind of product that you use, or you're like man, this is like the best and it makes my life better. Let them know, and, first off, they love hearing it because it encourages them to make you know better products. But also, who knows, it could go somewhere.
Janiece:It's great advice. I mean, everyone's kind of just looking for creative ways to stay engaged in the workspace and it doesn't necessarily mean that you know you're going to be some kind of like, you know, instagram star or whatever it may be, but it may kind of catapult you in a different direction that you didn't even know. Your clinical experience is gold.
Amanda:To companies, it's gold, it's so huge.
Janiece:So I'm going to wrap this podcast up, but I've got a couple of things that I want to ask you. So, if you want to send our listeners off with just some little nuggets of wisdom because there was a ton in this out of all of this, what is like the two things, or maybe even three, that can help them stay engaged in their career?
Amanda:Yeah, I would say first up, dig in and learn about who you are. Learn about yourself, first Understand like. Take some personality assessment. In fact, I think, janice, you're, I think you're certified to it.
Janiece:I do do that. I visit with people and courses on that.
Amanda:Yeah, which is freaking amazing once you really understand who you are and your strengths, and that will help you start to then be kinder to yourself because you understand yourself. So I think the first one is be curious about yourself, and this is going to go a little bit to that.
Amanda:under one roof mega session but yeah like be curious about yourself, be really curious about dentistry and dental hygiene and education, because this is changing so flippant fast and I want you to think of yourself as a health care professional that needs to stay on top of their game. And so you know, take advantage of there's such great education out there and a lot of it is free. And a lot of it is free. But also, don't be afraid to either spend money on yourself or even ask your doc hey, I really want to go to this course. This is going to help our practice for this and have them pay for it, whichever, but keep learning.
Amanda:I got to tell you, man, when we can bring to our patients like, oh, ok, so I read this new research paper and this is what it's telling us and this is why you know, this is why your oral health is so much more important than we thought. Or, oh my gosh, mr Smith, you have a knee surgery coming up All right Before your knee surgery, I want to make sure we're below 10% bleeding, because we know you know to take that role of healthcare professional and continue to be curious and learn, oh, will keep you so excited. And then, lastly, to be curious about our patient and who they are, and how do we have these conversations with our patient in a way that isn't like floss nagging Right, because we all lost.
Janiece:Yeah Right, I mean you talk. I'm not a fan of that, right Any, stranger in the world that meets me.
Amanda:You know I meet somebody and they're like they find out I'm a hygienist. I'm really sorry. I'm sorry I didn't floss. So stop the floss nagging and let's really get into that co-discovery with our patients where we're really coming together and understanding, you know. Let's understand their why and some of their goals and then be able to bring that back into how can we help them have that optimal health.
Amanda:I talked about that health longevity right, how important that is to me. How I have this ring that tells me things, that gives me data. Give our patients the data from their, their their visit. Let them know the bleeding points, use disclosing solution. Let them see the plaque. Let them own their disease. Don't you own their disease Because I did that for far too long. Yeah, I owned it and I was afraid to tell them about that seven millimeter pocket because they might not like me. Darn it all. I'm hurting their health. I'm hurting their health by not telling them these things. So be curious about yourself, be curious about your profession and always be learning and be curious about your patients and I think if you stay in that state of curiosity, this is such a fun field and you are such a lifeline to patients and that, oh my gosh, you are that first and foremost person that's going to help keep them healthy. It's huge.
Janiece:It is huge. Well, thank you so much for being with me today. I also wanted to just like, really quickly how can someone reach out to you so you can go to?
Amanda:my website, which is amandahillrdhcom, and that'll show my upcoming speaking events and things like that. You can find me on Facebook at Amanda Hill RDH, instagram, amanda Hill RDH, linkedin at Amanda Hill RDH, and my email is amandahillrdh at gmailcom. So pretty easy so, and I love, I truly love hearing from people, and I really think that I've had amazing mentors in my path, and so I'm happy to help others as long as you're willing to do the work. But you have to be willing to do the work. I'm not going to do it for you.
Janiece:That's good, I love that. So thank you once again and thank you for being my first guest. Thanks for letting me. I know I appreciate it so much and everyone just have.